Should I use Material-UI for big enterprise application - javascript

We are migrating big and ugly MVC based Java EE application to React. The application in question is a browser based UI with hundreds of views featuring complex forms, listings and links. It's intended for officer desktop use, so responsiveness is not a concern.
I have built some small admin dashboards with React without using component library, which was hard enough by it's own right. Considering the huge size of this project and amount of developers working on it, I'm considering utilizing a component library for a solid base. I'm seeking for a framework containing the UI components, layout utilities, error handling, validation support etc. Of course the look and feel should be customizable.
Is the Material-UI library a good choice in this case? Do you recommend some additional libraries with it to streamline the development?

Yes, material-ui is a fine choice. It is widely used and very customizable. In my company we are using it for all our frontend projects.
As #Margon already mentioned React is only a library and you probably want to add some additional libraries. The most important are in my opinion react-router for routing and you will want some kind of state management. The most popular are redux and mobx.

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What are the options available to go from Sketch to ReacJs?

What are the options available to export Sketch for Mac UX designs to ReactJS components to be used by the coding team.
From those options, what are the recommended ones, pros and cons of each?
We need something that can automate the coding work of ReactJs components, supports flex and offer support for web applications as well as react-native code.
Our scenario is a SaaS application where we do everything coding (html, css and js) and we want to better develop the UX using Sketch and then generate base code for our UX components to be worked by our coding team.
We have developed the web and app for years and also have the same question.
We have sketch design and it indeed takes much time to code design into web and app.
Currently, the best tool to mitigate the pain is handoff tools which improve productivity and communication overhead.
There're few tools such as Anima, it's good for the prototyping but not easy to adopt for code modification and integration. Finally, we find out the key to the quality code is the right structure of the group and layouts which is not easy to represent in the Sketch design file. So our solution leaves the key decisions for users to decide their group structure for responsive behaviors and we provide an intuitive and fast way to create react components. In our early experiments, it would much faster than manual coding without sacrificing the code quality.
You can checkout the export code via github
https://github.com/px2code/pxCode-Sketch-to-React-Example1
or directly check the codesandbox to preview and edit the code via
https://codesandbox.io/s/pxcode-example-s9sxx?file=/src/components/Card.js
This is more like a 2 step process. First you need to import the sketch file, which you can do so with Desech Studio. This will create an html structure where elements are positioned with css grids, not position absolute. But you will still need to make some changes to the margins and sizes to match your design.
Then you can install and enable the react plugin into your project and then export the code as react code. Check the github repo for more details.
But this is only for web react, not react-native. Maybe you can make your own plugin, based on the existing react web one, but I haven't tried it though.
So pros, and cons. The pros are that it automates and speeds up things. The cons are that the automation requires some work from you.

Web Components in Different Frameworks

I want to create Custom Web Components and use them in variety of frameworks like Angular, React and vanilla Javascript.
My question is Should I use Polymer(or any other library) to create one or write down by extending "HTMLElement".
What are the differences.
If you want to develop Custom Elements with Polymer, and intergrate them with another framework, you'll need to understand internals of both the Polymer and the other framework(s) to make them work flawlessly together, especially for complex architecture. I guess it's a challenge.
Also, you'll have to deal with the versions and compatibility between different framework versions. For exemple, if you develop a component with Polymer v3, il will be difficult to integrate it with Polymer v2, especially in a cross-browser ecosystem.
Lastly, if you intend to distribute your Custom Elements, you can imagine the 2 constraints above will apply to the targeted developers too. As a React developer, I wouldn't like to have to import another (the Polymer) framework and polyfill to integrate some 3rd-party components.
For theses reasons I would recomment to design Vanilla Custom Elements in order to interact with a highest number of web frameworks.

why dojo 2 doesn't take an already created framework as base?

why dojo2 doesn't take an already created framework as base. For example they could use angular2 as base and then only create the widgets.
why they want to create everything from scratch? Is there any advantage on doing that?
Angular and Dojo are two different things.
Dojo is a JavaScript toolkit. Provides everything you need to build a Web app. From widgets, utilities, pub/sub, aol programming even a build tool and much more.
AngularJS is a specialized structural framework for dynamic web apps.
The advantage of dojo is that cover majority of aspects needed for a complex Web app with a standard API.
If you would use instead several combination of frameworks, would be more difficult to achieve such uniformity.
Interestingly Dojo2 now use an external library for virtual dom called maquettejs for its widget system, but I believe it is a special case otherwise dojo itself is quite comprehensive toolkit.
Hm, apart from dojo's modularity and different goal :
dojo appeared in 2005 (history)
and angular appeared in 2009
Note that dojo2 is beta.
They could use angular (but why a new isolated product) or polymer (but not serverside) or react (but not typescripted) but why should they change the philosophy behind the widget system at all. They recently decided to support TSX which is a react like syntax.

Are all Flux for Angular Libraries Experimental?

Facebook React can use a unidirectional data flow pattern called Flux to give structure to applications by using Views, Actions, Stores and a Dispatcher.
I have found the following Flux libraries for Angular:
ng-flux: https://github.com/JustinWinthers/ng-flux
angular-flux: https://github.com/brentvatne/angular-flux
song-flux: https://github.com/gah-boh/song-flux
And this sample: http://victorsavkin.com/post/99998937651/building-angular-apps-using-flux-architecture
Are any of these production ready?
Which ones have plans to migrate to Angular2 and integrate with the Component Router?
I can't seem to find any large application samples using any of these libraries. Additional links would be useful.
I authored ng-flux and I wouldn't say it's production ready since I haven't had the time to test it in a variety of projects. However I am using it in a fairly large enterprise class application currently. I agree that flux-angular has a good team around it and I'd recommend their library. Regardless, flux is simply a pattern that you can incorporate on your own. The issue with any Angular 1.x based approach is always the way Angular manages digest cycles and you have to sometimes jump through hoops for views to update in the background if you process data outside of the Angular namespace. In ng-flux I force a digest cycle if one hasn't occurred.
Flux as a pattern works well to me because it makes debugging and code separation much easier on larger projects, so my goal was to use this pattern on a project that already had substantial legacy Angular code and decrease the time it was taking to triage errors. It's an actuarial application with lots of calculations, so finding small data discrepancies fast was necessary. Writing ng-flux achieved this for me.
Regarding Angular 2, I think it will be easy enough to incorporate Facebook's dispatcher in your project and allow it to manage data flow. I think once Angular 2 is ready, based on what I've read so far it should be easier to use third party JS libraries - especially since Angular 2 will follow more of a web component based architecture somewhat similar to React. I've even seen promises that it will be easier (or more organic) to use third party routers, etc.... If this holds true, I doubt you'll actually need a library to manage a flux based data architecture in your Angular 2 apps. It should be fairly seamless to simply use something like the Facebook Dispatcher as a singleton (properly namespaced) object in your app that you can reference in your Angular components. I think most of the library authors out there realize this - it's more a problem for Angular 1.x apps to use this pattern than it will/should be for Angular 2 apps.
https://github.com/facebook/flux/blob/master/src/Dispatcher.js
I am not a pro in ReactJS, however I am not sure that integrating Flux with AngularJS is really a focal point for many Angular developers. With the release of 2.0, the Angular teams is continuing to make the framework more and more self-sufficient so people do not have to jumble together different libraries, but instead can just rely Angular to accomplish the task at hand.
That said, it seems like this flux-angular libary is stable with versions' 1.x, and it seems like it has pretty good support. I know it does not help your case when dealing with 2.0, however, it does seem like a solid enough API; but, then again, maybe I am just biased because of the functionality I have been able to replicate using Angular 1.2 & 1.3 :)

Is Google's Polymer a fully functioning Frontend Framework to Subsitute OR Complement other Frontend Frameworks?

The question is in regard to AngularJS, BackboneJS, EmberJS and the other frameworks.
I have to translate a project from php to javascript and I have to decide, if I am going to use:
AngularJS
Polymer
A combination of them
I prefer using Polymer, because I like it.
Yet, I am missing (and correct me where I am wrong) the ability to make:
Views and link between them (like in Angualar)
Controllers
I know that the structure is up to me, on how to build my application, but it seems that angularjs has a well predefined structure for building mvc-applications.
Therefore I want to know: Is Polymer a substitute for Angular, if you want to build a well structured web application or is Polymer complementary library to be used along other existing frameworks?
EDIT 21.09.2014
No one really answered the question to my fullest satisfaction, therefore I marked it as not answered yet. Many say it just "DEPENDS". But no one is able to elaborate, on what exactly it depends.
On the complexity of the application? On the needs of the application? For what needs does Polymer fit and for which doesn't it fit? These are the answers I was looking for.
Some say it can be used as a frontend framework. Others say that is just a library and others say "Yes and No". Unfortunately rather confusing answers.
I wish there was an official answer to this, but I let you in on what my feeling is. I believe it is a substitute, but Polymer hasn't yet reached the structure, that other frameworks require to work. Maybe this is intentional, maybe it is just a matter of unreached maturity, because the framework is new.
I hope that the creators will explain, when it is best to use AngularJS and when should someone use Polymer for building large scalable web applications.
EDIT 15.08.2015
Polymer 1.0 is out. And it turns out Polymer is officially NOT a framework and is supposed to work in a complentary way with other frontend frameworks.
https://youtu.be/fD2As5RmM8Q?t=6m42s
IMHO both are two different things and they both are to serve two different purposes. Though they have some common features to offer, data-binding can be one of them.
Polymer
If you truly want to use the Awesome Webcomponents, Polymer is one way to achieve that. There are other options like you can go with your vanilla JS, or use other libraries like X-Tag from Mozilla or Bosonic. These libraries polyfill the webcomponent features which are still in drafted state. So, these libs help us have/provide the same user experience across browsers even where there is no native support for the webcomponents.
Angular
This is a full fledged MVC framework. And people here know what Angular as an MVC framework includes/provides.
That all said to answer your question
Google's Polymer is not exactly a fully functioning Frontend Framework and can be used as a Subsitute OR Complement to other Frontend Frameworks. It can be used as a substitution for the V part in Angular as MVC. Like people use React as V in different frameworks. It is not much a different case for me. Being more specific in case of Angular, Polymer is like directives in Angular 1.x while like components in upcoming Angular 2.x.
References
To be more sure of what I am talking about and for additional sources on how to use the Polymer with Angular2 (Angular2 not released to this date)
you can check this video at "https://youtu.be/7WgEuNZCCHk?t=32m15s" starting from time 32:15 where Rob explains how to use the generic webcomponents/polymer as the components/View in the Angular2.
you can check this project "https://github.com/rkirov/youtube-app" which uses Angular2 and google-youtube web component.
https://github.com/ebidel/polymer-experiments/tree/master/polymer-and-angular/together
From the polymer-starter-kit
Framework-free, or framework-compatible
Build your app out of elements, or wire in an external framework to handle business logic. It's up to you!
So, in my view these two projects are not competing each other.
Webcomponent Specs
The webcomponent specs are here for one's reference
Custom Elements - http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/custom/
HTML Imports - http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/imports/
Shadow DOM - http://w3c.github.io/webcomponents/spec/shadow/
I just wish the webcomponents are native to the evergreen browsers ASAP.
From the Polymer Starter Kit:
"Framework-free, or framework-compatible
Build your app out of elements, or wire in an external framework to handle business logic. It's up to you!"
Update:
What was described as Carbon Elements seems to fall under:
Polymer(version 2) App Toolbox
Component-based architecture using Polymer and web components.
Responsive design using the app layout components.
Modular routing using the elements.
Localization with <app-localize-behavior>.
Turnkey support for local storage with app storage elements.
Offline caching as a progressive enhancement, using service workers.
Build tooling to support serving your app multiple ways: unbundled for delivery over HTTP/2 with server push, and bundled for delivery over HTTP/1.
Carbon Elements adding framework features
During The Polymer Summit 2015 Keynote, Google announced a new "Polymer idiomatic and framework oriented" set of elements, tentatively named the Carbon elements.
Some quotes from the longer tjsavage answer regarding Angular 2 vs Polymer Carbon:
"The trick is in thinking about the web platform as an application framework... Polymer the library is to the web components component model as the carbon elements will be to using the web platform itself as an application framework: the opinionated rails to make it easier to understand and achieve."
"Angular 2 will provide one way of structuring your application that uses Angular's view of what makes a good application structure. The carbon elements will provide a different way of structuring your application that more directly uses what the web platform itself provides as its structural underpinning."
Polymer is almost fully functional.
Currently it is missing routing for example but this doesn't mean you can't do this with Polymer.
There is now https://elements.polymer-project.org/elements/app-route
In Dart also dependency injection works fine with Polymer because of the types. If it's possible in Dart, it's possible in JS as well because Dart transpiles to JS. DI in plain JS might be more cumbersome though.
In this package (Dart)
https://github.com/bwu-dart/bwu_polymer_routing
I made the routing and DI packages used by Angular.dart available for Polymer. There are also routing packages for Polymer.js available.
I put together some router demos. The "missing parts" really depend on what type of application you're building.
https://github.com/erikringsmuth/polymer-router-demos
I've used it as both, as an enhancement to an app written in another framework, and as the full framework itself, where it was responsible for every element on the page.
I really like just about everything about Polymer, so I've been very happy using it for the whole app, even built my own router. If you've got an existing app I'd recommend dipping your toe in the water, as Polymer works great composed into other apps to see if it's to your liking.
Let me give this another try:
The key behind web-components (and thus Polymer) is, that they are self-contained. You have a web-component somewhere, you import it, and (if you're lucky) it just works, wherever it comes from. The web-component will NOT interfere other components. So doing things like MVC is not Polymers business (although it provides a data-binding mechanism), as this belongs to the process of tying things together. It is considered to be best practice that these kind of things are solved by creating new elements too, that create and react to events. When it comes to the model you code non-visual web-components, that don't have/need a template. TodoMVC has an (outdated) example for that (https://github.com/tastejs/todomvc/tree/gh-pages/examples/polymer).
So Angular gives you a path to follow on how to do MVVM, whereas it is up to you on how to do the "logic" in your app when using Polymer. IMHO Angular is for more complex and rather enclosed apps, whereas Polymer is for any kind of app, that embraces the web. You even can use Polymer, if you're not writing an app at all ;)

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