We're using a webprogram that uses ajax and jquery and the like (Netsuite). I want to change something on a page and have tried to use document.ready and window.load to get an external script loaded on the page. I've tried to load the external script in the head and body.. but the contents aren't written. The external file looks for a specific div id and then prepends some code to that. It never works, because the page itself loads dynamically and the div I'm looking for loads when the rest of the page is done. So window.load, etc. never work...
At last I'm in the program itself that loads parts and pieces and am trying to simply write the external script file in there. Now this time the external file has a simple document.write in it, so it's straightforward. In other words, the script is in the middle of html code in the body of the page. (I know this is a terrible way of doing it, but I've got to try something to get this to work....)
According to firebug, it writes the external file where it should be (check!) and firebug shows me the contents of that file (check!), but ... it never 'writes' it onto the page...
The file just contains this:
document.write('<div id="shpblk" style="border:2px solid #ffa500;border-radius:7px;color:#000066;margin:5px;padding:5px;text-align:left;"><img border="0" width="12" height="12" src="/images/icons/store/icon_exclamation2c.gif">Hazardous conditions blahblah... Potential delays and disruptions can be anticipated.</div>');
What am I missing?
Edit: some more clarification is necessary...:
Situation: I have to be able to put a piece of html on the page every now and then that creates a message.
Environment: What I have is a page that loads a header and footer first (which are set up in separate files) and then it takes a second or so to load the rest of the page. From what I understand, this "rest of the page" is written in a certain code, similar to javascript/jquery.
What I CAN do is: edit the files for the header and footer and put javascript in there to make modifications to the rest of the page. I can access some of the files that contain parts and pieces of the "rest of the page", but this is a huge pile of spaghetti.
What I've tried:
Since I want to be flexible with the html that I need to put into the page, I preferably would like to create a piece of javascript or html or whatever on another site and have the "environment" pick up that code. I can do this with javascript or iframe. But since it's a secure area (https), I thought it would be best to use a javascript file instead of an iframe. So....
I created the javascript file and tried it out in a normal environment where I knew for sure it would work.. and it works like a charm. But when I tried this in the before mentioned "environment", I am running against a wall...
The javascript file has document.ready jquery statement in it and it would prepend the html div to an existing div on the page.
This way it would load the page and write the page.. easy as pie.
However.. since the header and footer load first (which includes the external script file), and then the rest of the page, SOMEHOW the div where the script checks for DOES NOT EXIST YET. So I tried window.load instead of document.ready. Same result.
Now, it WOULD appear ONLY when I refresh the page. So there may be a way to have it refresh the page, but I only want this as the absolute last attempt.
So then I tried to see if I could go around this by changing the script so that, instead of using a document.ready it would just do a simple javascript document.write statement.
Then I call the script in the middle of the body of the page (I put it in one of the files that load in the middle of the page). I know this is not something I would do normally, but wanted to try it out anyway. So.... I would have something like this:
<div id="block1">
<div id="block2">stuff here<div>
<script type="text/javascript" src="https://someotherdomain.com/include.js" ></script>
<div id="block3">stuff here<div>
<div id="block4">stuff here<div>
</div>
Now when I run this, I do not get any errors, but nothing is being done with the contents of that js file. In firebug it shows me the contents of that file though.. so I assume it's being read.
But I have no idea why it doesn't run.
Again.. back to 'normal' practices: I've tried window.load, because this would run the statement after the page loads, HOWEVER.. like I said before, I have the feeling it builds the contents of the (middle of the) page through this somehow and my script runs before this; it cannot find the div (block3) where it would prepend to. Whenever I stop running the page at my script, the div it's depending on doesn't exist yet...
I hope this made sense...
Solution
For the external script file to work as expected, OP will need to load it using an asynchronous script tag like this:
<script type="text/javascript" src="include.js" ></script>
Yet, the file contains a document.write() statement, which is generally something to avoid. A better alternative would be remove document.write() from the file and save it as a plain HTML file. This could then be safely loaded using using jQuery:
$("#include1").load("include.html");
( Requires adding a target DIV to the page where the content should load. )
DETAILS
The question doesn't tell us how the external file is included on the page. And without that information it's difficult to understand the problem or provide a solution ... which is probably why this question has gone unanswered.
Yet, let's assume the the script is being injected into the page on the client side using JavaScript or jQuery. And if that's true then it will fail if not done the correct way.
Let's look at some ways we might add the script to the page:
These script tags will all fail because the file contains a document.write statement and the script is loaded asynchronously.
<script type="text/javascript" src="include.js" async ></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="include.js" defer ></script>
<script type="text/javascript" src="include.js" async defer ></script>
The browser does load the file, but reports:
Failed to execute 'write' on 'Document': It isn't possible to write
into a document from an asynchronously-loaded external script unless
it is explicitly opened.
This jQuery sort of works. It loads the script, but the document.write implicitly calls document.open, which erases the original content of the page. That's probably not what OP wants.
$.getScript('include.js');
This synchronous method works so long as the document.write is executed on load, i.e., is not inside function called later. So this is a possible solution for OP.
<script type="text/javascript" src="include.js" ></script>
Related
We have a website that is supposed to be loading a logo provided by a 3rd party (the logo is a link that allows users to see that our site has been verified by that 3rd party.)
To get this to work, we're told to include a short script in the head
<script type="text/javascript">
//<![CDATA[
var tlJsHost = ((window.location.protocol == "https:") ?
"https://secure.comodo.com/" : "http://www.trustlogo.com/");
document.write(unescape("%3Cscript src='" + tlJsHost +
"trustlogo/javascript/trustlogo.js'
type='text/javascript'%3E%3C/script%3E"));
//]]>
</script>
And another script in the body:
<script language="JavaScript" type="text/javascript">
TrustLogo("https://ourfakesite.com/logo.png", "CL1", "none");
</script>
This all worked fine, initially: the external script is loaded, the function is run, the logo shows up. Perfect.
The problem occurred when the remote site got really slow...all of our pages that load this logo suddenly became very slow as well, since the script is running synchronously.
Ideally, I'd like this to work as if it were designed as an ajax type call...load the page, and after the page is loaded, attempt to load the extra content.
I've tried some combinations of async/defer and using things like ajax, but it seems that because the JS is using a document.write, if the page is fully loaded, the document.write blows away the existing document before writing the new data; the page loads...and then disappears and the logo appears. (I've seen some commentary explaining that this is expected behavior when document.write is used after the page is loaded.)
Is there a way to do this? Is there an alternate path I'm not considering?
Looking at https://secure.comodo.com/trustlogo/javascript/trustlogo.js, the TrustLogo function itself uses document.write (indirectly, the code is minified, but eventually it does), which means you can't use those scripts asynchronously. If you make the first script asynchronous and append that JavaScript file another way, then you have to make the second script asynchronous, and that would mean document.write (within the TrustLogo function) would be called after the main HTML parsing is complete, which in turn means that there'd be an implicit document.open, which would erase your page. :-(
Of course...you could put all of that in an iframe on your main page, so that only the iframe, not your whole page, is impacted. Provided that's not a violation of the terms of use of the logo (obviously, you'd use a relative path for the iframe so their code sees the right domain and such).
What are the differences between the two solutions below ?
In particular, is there a good reason to favour 2 over 1. (note: Please assume the name of the script to load is known. The question is just about if there is value in creating a minimal script to load a script in the given situation )
1 - Script At The Bottom
<html>
<body>
...
...
<script src='myScript.js'></script>
</body>
</html>
2 - Script at the bottom loads external script
<html>
<body>
...
...
<script>
// minimal script to load another script
var script = document.createElement('script');
script.src = 'myScript.js'
document.body.appendChild(script);
</script>
</body>
</html>
One important feature of the second one is that it allows the browser to finish parsing the page immediately, without waiting for the script to load. That's because the first example allows the script to use document.write to change the parsing state around the <script> tag, while the second one doesn't.
Now, we know that it's at the bottom of the page so that there isn't any important content left to parse, but this is still an important difference. It's not until parsing is done that the browser fires the popular DOMContentLoaded event. In method 1, the event fires after the script loads and executes. In method 2, the event fires before the script starts loading.
Here are some examples. In these demos, a DOMContentLoaded listener changes the background color to yellow. We try to load a script that takes 3 seconds to load.
http://jsfiddle.net/35ccs/
http://jsfiddle.net/VtwUV/
(edit: Maybe jsfiddle wasn't the best place to host these demos. It doesn't show the result until the slow-loading script loads. Be sure to click Run again once it loads, to see what happens.)
Pick the approach that's best for your application. If you know you need the script to run before DOMContentLoaded, go with method 1. Otherwise, method 2 is pretty good in most cases.
1. Script at the bottom
When you use a "synchronous" script tag, it will block the browser from rendering the page until the script is loaded and executed. This method has the following effects:
Regardless of where you put the script tag, the browser cannot fire DOMContentLoaded until the script is downloaded and executed.
Placing such a script tag at the bottom only ensures that the browsers has rendered all content before getting blocked by the script.
2. Script at the bottom loads external script
When you inject a script tag using JavaScript, it will create an "asynchronous" script tag that does not block the browser. This method has the following effects:
Regardless of where you put the JavaScript code that generates the script tag, the browser executes it as soon as it is available without blocking the page. The DOMContentLoaded fires when it should; irrespective of whether the script has downloaded/executed.
The second approach has the following advantages:
The script that injects a script tag can be placed anywhere including document head.
The script will not block the rendering.
DOMContentLoaded event does not wait for the script.
The second approach has the following disadvantages:
You cannot use document.write in such scripts. If you do, such statements might wipe the document clean.
Asynchronous execution does not mean that browser has finished parsing the page. Keep the script executes as soon as it is available clause in mind.
Execution order is not guaranteed. Example: If you load "library.js" and "use-library.js" using injected script tags, it is possible for "use-library.js" to load and execute before "library.js".
Having said all that, there is another method for loading scripts, with three variations:
<script src="myScript.js" async></script>
<script src="myScript.js" defer></script>
<script src="myScript.js" async defer></script>
Regarding Steve Souders's work: he proposed 6 techniques for loading scripts without blocking. The async and defer attributes introduced in HTML5 cover the Script DOM Element and Script Defer techniques and their browser support is more than enough for you to worry about the other techniques.
These two ways of initializing a script are basically the same, although theres no reason to use the second way if you can directly put in the result. However you can wrap the second example in a $(document).ready() method for example which would lead to sort of a lazy loading effect. This basically means that the page would load first and after the loading of the page is finished it would load the script. Or of course you can create a method which initializes a certain script this way. It's useful when you have a large script which is used only in some situations. This would prevent loading it unless you need it, thus decreasing the overall loading time.
This isn't a direct answer to your question, but it's good to know regardless.
The 2nd approach is sometimes used as a library fallback.
For example, you load jQuery from the Google CDN. But, if it were to fail for any reason, load jQuery from your own local copy.
Here's how the popular HTML5 Boilerplate recommends doing this:
<script src="//ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.11.0/jquery.min.js"></script>
<script>window.jQuery || document.write('<script src="js/vendor/jquery-1.11.0.min.js"><\/script>')</script>
The first method means that the script tag is hardcoded in. The second method dynamically adds a script tag to the bottom of the page using JavaScript. The benefit of the second method is that you can add additional logic if needed to modify the script tag. Perhaps you might want to load a different script file based on culture, browser or some other factor you can determine in JavaScript. The second method also causes the JavaScript file to be loaded without blocking the loading of the rest of the web page. In method one the page will stop loading when it gets to the script tag, load the JavaScript file, then finish loading the rest of the page. Since this tag is at the bottom of your page it doesn't make too much of a difference.
If you are creating a Windows Store app using JavaScript then the first method is recommended as this will allow the app to bytecode cache the JavaScript file which will make it load up faster.
The following link http://developer.yahoo.com/performance/rules.html#js_bottom says
"Put Scripts at the Bottom" for Speeding Up Your Web Site. Lets say I have added them at bottom
<html>
<head></head>
<body>
...
...
...
html
....
<script src="script1"/>
<script src="script2"/>
<script src="script3"/>
</body>
</html>
Now if I have the requirement to access some function of those js files somewhere in the middle of html, how would I do that? Let's say the code is like this
<html>
<head></head>
<body>
...
...
...
html
.....
<script>
$('a.test').modal('show);
</script>
....
<script src="script1"/>
<script src="script2"/>
<script src="script3"/>
</body>
</html>
Above "$", "modal" etc are the part of js libraries attached at the bottom of the page. How will I detect the completion of bottom scripts and fire the code written in script tag (
$('a.test').modal('show);
)
To execute a script you have to make sure you have to provided all the necessary dependencies for that script. Hence, you have two options:
Put necessary script references before the particular script
Put the script at the bottom of the page.
Nothing is set in stone and the real solution depends on your particular problem.
Its a general good coding practice to keep all scripts at one portion of html.
Having said that, i would suggest the same thing, to have maximum of script loading at the bottom, this helps in quick loading.
As far as dependencies go, if you script is dependent on something, try including it before it is called. Its basically iterative :)
You'll have to consider your design and what you want to do with your page.
Start with your hypothesis: Putting tags at the bottom speeds up your website.
Does it speed up your website? not really. So what does it do? The advantage of loading a script at the bottom of the DOM means that the DOM always gets loaded first.
The page is parsed from top to bottom, as soon as a script tag is encountered it gets executed. If the script tag has a link on it that script gets loaded synchronously, holding off rendering of the DOM.
If you absolutely need jQuery to do stuff in the middle of the page, load it on top. Is your webpage now slower? Yeah, it took a second to load jQuery. Were your audience impacted? By how much? a second?
Takeaways: Loading a script at the top is fine. Loading 10 scripts that end up being about 1 mbyte combined is not because it impacts UX.
As other people have mentioned, you can always selectors to manipulate that part of the code, no need to run a script in the middle of the page. It's a better practice to separate your UI from your code anyways.
You can defer execution of $ so that your code doesn't run until after your scripts have loaded.
http://www.mrclay.org/2010/11/14/using-jquery-before-its-loaded/
I've been trying to add JavaScript to my HTML/CSS, but been running around in circles.
My current set-up is where the html, CSS, and JavaScript files (2 files; my JavaScript code, and jQuery's code) are all separate, but linked to each other via the html page.
So here are my questions:
1) Do I put the link to the jQuery code within the html head? Or within my JavaScript code page?
2) Where does this code go? The html page, or my JavaScript page?
$(document).ready(function(){
//Code here
});
3) Above, by 'code here', they mean JavaScript code, right? Not my html code?
4) I've read about initializing JavaScript code at the bottom of an html page. From what I take though, I don't have to do that with jQuery's .ready function, right?
You should like to your JavaScript files either in the <head> or above the closing </body> tag.
The code can go anywhere really, but I would suggest an external JavaScript page.
Yes
This is correct.
When Javascript code is executing in your browser, all of your included Javascript files and any code you write in-between those "script" tags in the HTML document is going to be executed as though it were all part of one giant file (same namespace). So in some sense, it doesn't matter whether you write your code in the HTML document or whether you write it in an external file that you include - you're free to do either, and it will be executed the same. You can balance maintainability, reusability and convenience (think about what functions you write that you might want to reuse on other pages) and do whichever you feel is best.
To make this concrete - this is one valid way to write your Javascript, if you wanted to write the code inside your HTML file:
<html>
<head>
<script type="text/javascript" src="jquery.js"></script>
<script type="text/javascript">
$(document).ready(function(){
alert('Document Ready!');
});
</script>
</head>
<body>
...
Here's the intro at the jQuery site, for reference:
http://docs.jquery.com/Tutorials:Getting_Started_with_jQuery
Writing your Javascript code at the bottom of the HTML page was/is a technique for getting it to execute as soon as the document is loaded, which is unnecessary when using jQuery's '$(document).ready' (that's what it does - it abstracts the business of getting Javascript functions to execute on page load, and implements it in a cross-browser way).
See: Introducing $(document).ready() for more.
It doesn't really matter where you place your jQuery code. If you place it in the head tag, it'll automatically load everything. If you decide to place it all in an external JavaScript file, you need to link it with a <script type="text/javascript" src="my_file.js"></script> tag.
The 'code here' part is only for JavaScript. What the code is saying is that when the document is ready, run this function. The function can be whatever you like - whatever you put inside the function will run when the document is ready (i.e. when the webpage is called by the browser).
You don't need to insert it at the bottom of the HTML page - you can do it anywhere. People only insert it at the bottom to optimize their loading speed. It's nonessential.
$(document).ready(function(){
//Code here
});
goes in your javascript file. All javascript code that should be executed once the page has loaded goes where the //Code here comment is.
Perhaps a quick jQuery tutorial would be in order?
Or, you can put your script tag in the bottom of your body, and not have to use the $(document).ready() function.
Put in the head. This is the most stable way and it works. Some people may disagree and say it is slower, etc, but I have found this to always work.
Where you put your code is up to you. You can put in your head with a
<script>Code here</script>
or in a separate file and include it with
<script src="reftomyscript.js"></script>
Yes, put your javascript code in this, either in the head or in a separate file.
Yes, and see (1)
I see that Javascript code is normally in heading part of HTML code.
<head>
<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="core.js"></script>
...
</head>
Is it OK to put the Javascript code in a body part of HTML code? I tested it, but it seems to work.
<body>
<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript" src="core.js"></script>
...
</body>
If so, why the examples of Javascript books put the javascript code in heading part?
If not, what's the difference between putting the javascript code in body/heading part?
Not only is it OK, it's actually better, since it lets the content come first.
If your viewers have a slow (eg, mobile) connection, it's better to send the actual content first, so that they can read it while the browser downloads the Javascript.
All the people saying it is better only applies if you are talking about at the bottom of the page (and that is an up for debate thing) from a code quality point of view, it is NOT ok to sprinkle script tags through your html. All references to javascript should be in a single place on the page, either the head (where they should be), or the very bottom (as a perf optimization)
Edit:
Basically, a web page is made up of 3 pieces; style (css), structure (html), and behavior (javascript). These pieces are all very distinct, so it makes sense to keep them as separate as possible. That way if you need to change some javascript, it is all in one place. If it is sprinkled through the file, it becomes much more difficult to find the code you are looking for, and that code basically becomes noise when you are just looking at structure.
It is the same arguments as why not sprinkle db access code all over your page. It has nothing to do with technical reasons, purely an architectural/design decision. Code that does different things should be kept separate for readability, maintainability, and by extension, refactorability (not sure if that last one is actually a word...)
You can do it, and people often do.
For example, people like to put their script tags just before the closing </body> to make web pages render quicker.
Also, if you do a script block after an element is created, you don't need to wait for DOM ready.
Be warned though, don't add, or remove an element from an unclosed ancestor in the markup tree (not including the script block's immediate parent element), or you will get the dreaded Operation Aborted error in IE.
Just something to add on:
I have preference of putting Javascript file right before </body>. My reasons being that:
Content can load and be shown first. If you load huge Javascript files first, which most are meaningless until the page is loaded, the user won't be able to see anything until the JS files are loaded.
Most Javascript code require to work with the UI can only run after the UI has been loaded. Placing the codes at the end of the html file reduces the need to use the onload event handler.
It is very bad habit to place Javascript snippets all over the HTML file. Placing all at the back of the HTML file allows you to manage your Javascript more efficiently.
It is legal according to the spec.
Most examples use them in the header as the headers come first and the browser will be able to parse the reference and download the JS files faster.
Additionally, these are links and are not part of the display, so traditionally, put in the header.
It is perfectly legal but there seem to be some differing opinions about it. Those who say to put all the javascript references in the head argue that the script is downloaded before the rest of the page become visible and dependent on it. So your user will not see an object on screen, attempt to interact with it and get an error because the javascript code is not yet loaded.
On the other hand, the argument goes that it takes longer to load all the script before the user sees the page and that can have a negative impact on perceived speed of your site.
JavaScripts inside body will be executed immediately while the page loads into the browser
Placing javascript at the end of the body will defer javascript load (ie: the page will render faster), but remember that any javascript function used for an event should be loaded before the event declaration, it is mainly because users may be able to fire an event before the page is completely loaded (so before the function is loaded)!
I used to put it in the head, then I've heard that it takes longer for the page to load so I started placing the scripts at the very bottom. However, I found out the most 'clean' way to do it is to place it in the head BUT you place the script inside a document.ready function. This way you have the best of both worlds. It is cleaner because it is in the head and it is not loaded before the content has been loaded, so there aren't any problems performance wise either.
With jQuery for instance, you can do it like this:
$(document).ready(function() {
alert('test');
});
The alert will only popup when the page has been fully loaded, even though the script is in the head.