The development experience for the Palm Pre sucks, to say the least. At best you are working on JavaScript in Eclipse with the Aptana plugin. The intellisense you get is really, really dismal. You have to be looking at the documentation every 5 seconds.
I was thinking, Visual Studio really excels at JavaScript and intellisense. Has anyone succeeded at writing Palm Pre code in VS2008 with intellisense, which would require hooking in Palm's Mojo Library?
Is there a known way to hook in 3rd party non-source libraries to JavaScript in Vs2008?
I've been looking for alternatives to Eclipse, too, but so far it does not appear that anyone has done it. For myself it felt like too much work, so I just switched to working with several terminal windows open and a browser window to the documentation.
I'm a long time eclipse user but was disappointed in the eclipse environment for Pre - especially after using the Android SDK which hooks nicely into eclipse (then again the dev environment is Java there).
Have you tried Komodo? I switched over to it and the autocompletion is nice and the webos addon does a decent job. I don't have the professional version so I can't comment on the debugging capability which I'd love to have.
If you can tell VS08 you want to load the Mojo.js stuff, then it should work. I think you should be able to configure any custom tools you need for building etc. as well.
Personally I'd recommend you check out JetBrains' IntelliJ IDEA. They have really good JavaScript support and I've used it with some Pre-stuff as well.
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Visual Studio is a wonderful IDE for debugging. Currently, Javascript is usually debugged using Firebug or Chrome developer tools. For websites containing javascript, I understand it is not possible to use Visual Studio. What about stand-alone javascript? I would like to debug stand-alone javascript functions in Visual Studio. If this is possible, may I know how can it be done?
I am using Visual Studio 2012.
Unfortunately this can't be done. The code would have to be in some kind of web project, and then you would have to use IE as your main development browser. Personally I started out years ago using the Visual Studio/IE debugging but find it prohibitively slow now.
Anyway this point is moot anyway because you don't want to debug a web app :)
As far as an alternative solution I can thoroughly recommend WebStorm by JetBrains, they really do a bang up job with the IDEs... and this is coming from a die hard Visual Studio guy! While I can't profess to being an expert with it the times I have used it I found the configuration reasonably easy, and it fully supports nodejs and all that stuff.
Hope this helps even though it's not the answer you were hoping for
I am very happy with Eclipse and don't want to change my IDE, but find the pre-bundled Eclipse plugin for JavaScript too difficult to work with.
Too many of the features that I got used to developing Java (not JavaScript) in Eclipse seem to be missing or incomplete, such as an intelligent code analysis, smart refactorings, a truly language-related (not full-text) reference search, class inheritance trees, etc.
Any suggestions for alternative Eclipse plugins for JavaScript development?
Admittedly, it is a lot more difficult to analyze JavaScript code (compared to Java) not only for a plugin but also for any human programmer, because JavaScript comes with fewer structural elements, and because there are so many different ways to do common things like inheritance or modularization. But there's got to be something, right?
As Nodeclipse lead, I am always looking for what is available in Eclipse ecosystem.
JavaScript support is Eclipse JSDT project.
It gives Editor, and JSDoc support.
For ES5 support, JSDT validation is to be disabled and JSHint-Eclipse used.
Also there is new Tern-IDE plugins, that gives hints and go to definition by using Tern.js.
The same author leads AngularJS plugin
All mention plugins can be got via Enide Studio 2014 (installed as plugins or downloaded as stand-alone product).
Nodeclipse site has even more links,
and I am inviting to collaborate on the JavaScript tools on GitHub
There are also JSON Editor and Json Tools.
Unfortunately VJET is no longer continued as there is no backing company now.
All effort are community driven. The simplest contribution is reporting bug or taking own issue to research and share.
Any suggestions for alternative Eclipse plugins for JavaScript development?
No alternative plugins, just get more of them.
The VJET plugin seems to provide better JavaScript support, although I haven't tested it very extensively.
http://eclipse.org/vjet/
For necessary code hygiene I recommend to use JSHint (a sane version of JSLint).
http://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/jshint-eclipse
Both are installable through the built-in Eclipse Marketplace.
The popular Aptana IDE, which is based on Eclipse, is also available as plugin, but I haven't tested it as plugin.
http://www.aptana.com/products/studio3/download
My personal opinion: Eclipse has outdated syntax validators (no ECMAScript 5 support) and non of the plugins can fix that. The problem is known for years (Bug Report), but nothing is done about it. Code completion seems to be a lot better in the WebStorm IDE or Sublime Text with certain plugins. Right now, I'm quite happy using Eclipse for my backend Java stuff and WebStorm for the frontend code for the same project.
A. In the Eclipse world...in my opinion... the best JavaScript support is currently given by Eclipse Orion, a web based variant of Eclipse:
https://orionhub.org
Orion applies tern.js to get JavaScript features like highlighting and completion:
Eclipse orion code completion
The JavaScript library tern.js seems to be up to date:
https://github.com/ternjs/tern
And it is applied by several Source Code Editor plugins:
https://ternjs.net/#plugins
B. On the other hand, all JavaScript plugins for Eclipse seem to be outdated.
See for example
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/development/news/main.php (last updated 2016)
The Eclipse Plugin for tern.js seems to be out of date, too:
https://marketplace.eclipse.org/content/tern-eclipse-ide
I was not able to install it on the current Eclipse version Photon.
Also see https://github.com/angelozerr/tern.java/issues/463
C. If you are open for a commercial JavaScript editor, try to use WebStorm, als already suggested by Tilman.
If there is a good Eclipse based JavaScript solution, that I am not aware of and that is able to compete with the features of WebStorm, please let me know.
I have been developing ASP.Net applications for quite a few years, and I have always avoided learning JavaScript. Now I have been diving in and trying to learn as much as possible.
As a .Net developer I rely on Visual Studio heavily. What I am wondering is what tools, as a JavaScript developer, do you guys rely on heavily to develop JavaScript? I have just discovered FireBug which is awesome. What other tools out there am I missing that are a must have?
Thanks!
Yes, Firebug is awesome. Be sure that you are aware of the profiling capabilities in there. Also, there is a new testing framework called FireUnit that works with Firebug as well.
I like Textmate for Javascript editing on my Mac. Aptana Studio (stand-alone or as an Eclipse plug-in) is really good too.
I've been meaning to try test-driven-development in Javascript with the YUI test library. It promises to be like NUnit/JUnit for Javascript, which would be great.
Check out JS lint.
If you're interested in Aspect-oriented Programming, look at AOP in Javascript from Dojo.
Lastly, for some good information about the current state of Javascript engines (cool stuff like TraceMonkey) and future directions, check out this episode of HanselMinutes.
Enjoy!
Firebug is pretty much the best. You'll need some solutions for IE too.
See this link: Debugging JavaScript in IE7
Visual Studio 2008 - has JavaScript
intellisense and integrated Js
debugging capability
FireBug - a
must have for any web developer
FireBug Lite - "The solution is
Firebug Lite, a JavaScript file you
can insert into your pages to
simulate some Firebug features in
browsers that are not named
"Firefox"."
JsLint - gotta make
sure what you're writing is of
decent quality, and JsLint will help
you do that
Other useful tools:
packer really good JavaScript compressor.
Web Developer extension for Firefox
JsUnit unit testing framework.
SeleniumIDE feature, user interface and acceptance testing.
Lately, Visual Studio itself has improved considerably in its JavaScript support. For example, IntelliSense is now available for JavaScript in VS2008, including for third-party libraries such as jQuery.
Why not continue to use the Visual Studio for convenience and download jQuery with intellisense support.
Scott Guthrie has a post on how to do it
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/11/21/jquery-intellisense-in-vs-2008.aspx
http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2008/09/28/jquery-and-microsoft.aspx
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What do you suggest for JS development IDE. Is there something similar to VisualStudio IDE, so I can run/debug my application in it?
At JetBrains we've just developed lightweight HTML/Javascript/CSS IDE WebStorm that includes very smart JavaScript Editor with DOM-based autocompletion and HTML5 API support.
It allows you to debug(breakpoints supported) and run your scripts directly from IDE.
A few options:
Visual Studio 2008 (including VWD Express, http://blog.berniesumption.com/software/how-to-debug-javascript-in-internet-explorer/)
Adobe Dreamweaver CS4
Notepad++ (or any other text editor), Firefox and Firebug
I think IntellJ's JavaScript support is excellent, just like everything else that they do.
Netbeans 6.x and Firefox+Firebug
In the past I used Aptana Standalone or as a Eclipse plugin. The Pro version has some nice addons like the embedded IE (to the always embedded Firefox) and debugging support for both browsers.
I found after hours of testing, that Suns Netbeans is the best PHP and Python IDE for Windows and Linux. I was surprised that also Javascript support can hold the candle to Aptana.
So Netbeans is my recommendation (not only for Javascript).
Give it a try, its free!
I've found Aptana Studio to be good.
I tend to recommend more and more Netbeans that has not been proposed yet (I am blind sometimes). Netbeans is developed by Sun and support not only Java but also a few other languages (PHP,Ruby,Python, Javascript).
I use it for a while now and I am very satisfied. It is fast, provides code completion and integrates easily major JS libraries (Prototype, YUI). It has also a debugger that you can tied to FF or IE.
Try it you won't be disappointed!
Here's a good list of IDEs you can use for writing JavaScript:
http://www.programmerfish.com/top-8-ide-integrated-development-environment-for-java-script-html5-ajax/
Nowadays I am using JetBrains' PHPStorm and I can easily say, this is the best editor I've ever tried. Comes with lots of features that I have not seen at other editors like,
find a word in a directory (grep equivalent)
extended and useful intellisense feature with multiple files and parent classes
internal GIT support
a tree view for application structure
an awesome version history support that works with GIT and your local history. This is very useful when you want to take a look at a GIT untracked file, you can see all history details of the file for weeks.
with a great addon named CSSXFire that works with Firebug and tracks the CSS changes and import them to editor and allows you easily reproduce the same changes that you've done in Firebug CSS Console. This is really awesome
another useful feature is, when you want to delete or rename a file, editor searches the file has been used in this directory and notifies you. This is called safe-refactor
intellisense for files, while you typing a css background-image, a src or an href attribute
Sometimes I deal with PHP so I prefer PHPStorm, so Front End Developers should prefer WebStrorm that is specialized for us.
I think, every FE Developer should try PHPStorm or WebStorm with Firefox and Firebug.
Komodo IDE (or the free Komodo Edit if you can live without an integrated debugger) are pretty nice.
I tried few IDE last week and NetBeans is my winner. It got silent upload option for file upload in background. And very good code completion, folding, etc.
Here is my experience with the applications based on Extjs in UI with Java as server side language. I am a big supporter of open source technologies/products.
I so far I have used Eclipse, Netbeans, Webstorm and notepad++ with some added plugins.
And I feel Netbeans is best in terms of Syntax highlighting and formating. It recognizes missing commas, global variables, duplicate keys for object literals in a very impressive way.
Almost similar things can be achieved by adding some pligins like Spket in eclipse too, but it asks for licence when you go for advance level of settings.
If you are not so much concern about an integrated environment with web server then Web storm is best in all the aspects, but the biggest drawback of it is, "Its paid". ( Even if it asks for 1000 Rs ).
Firebug and a good syntax highlighting text editor is about the best combo. It's not necessary to add in much else. With just this combo you get:
Ability to set breakpoints
Inspect objects
Traverse the DOM
Alter CSS rules on the fly
See network traffic/responses
Evaluate and substitute code on the fly in production
And there are tools which add on to Firebug:
YSlow - Determine "why" your page is slow
Fireunit - Run unit tests
One of the advantage of Javascript development is that it's flexible and you can get instantaneous feedback while developing. I see no reason to get in the way of that by adding an IDE which includes a "deployment" step.
Notepad++ comes with built-in javascript syntax highlighting and JSlint plugin is very handy. IMHO for debugging there is nothing better than Chrome developer tools or Firebug.
This page reviews the most advanced Javascript IDEs (in terms of refactoring and intellisense anyway) :
http://blue-walrus.com/2013/08/review-javascript-ides/
Eclipse and JSEclipse plugin and of course Firefox + Firebug the ultimate duo. You'll find this development setup satisfactory.
Aptana is a great IDE as it will provide intelli-sense for CSS, javascript, html, java, etc. The debugger gives you the choice to run in FF or IE and is a full featured debugger. The community edition allows you to run a server side javascript as well. A very solid and feature rich platform for free.
I'm looking for a good plugin for doing web front end work in Eclipse. I don't want something that completely takes over eclipse, or something that has masses of dependencies that need to be updated all the time, or something that is geared towards a particular server-side platform, or something that costs a heap.
Is there something light-weight out there that hits the sweet spot?
I tried aptana - found it took over my whole eclipse environment and put news feeds and other rubbish all over the place.
I then tried installing a subset of the aptana jar's and ended up pretty happy with the result.
Here's what I have in my plugins directory:
com.aptana.ide.core_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.snippets_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.core.ui_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.debug.core_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.editor.css_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.editor.html_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.editor.js_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.editors_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.editors.codeassist_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.epl_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.io.file_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.jface.text.source_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.lexer_1.1.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.libraries_1.2.0.18696
com.aptana.ide.libraries.jetty_1.2.0.018852
com.aptana.ide.logging_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.parsing_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.search.epl_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.server_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.server.core_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.server.jetty_1.2.0.018852.jar
com.aptana.ide.server.ui_1.2.0.018852.jar
..and in the features:
com.aptana.ide.feature.editor.css_1.2.0.018852
com.aptana.ide.feature.editors_1.2.0.018852
com.aptana.ide.feature.editor.html_1.2.0.018852
com.aptana.ide.feature.editor.js_1.2.0.018852
This is a very old initial question but since it's still very visible in Google I thought I'd update the answer for 2018 for anyone who happens to be wondering the same. Right now, the best editor for all the web languages is CodeMix. You can read about it at the link provided or install it from the Eclipse Marketplace.
Sounds like you need the Web Tools Project
Update: In latest 2016 Eclipse Neon, go to HELP -> Install Software and search for Eclipse Web Developer tools. For some reason it's hard to find them from the Marketplace.
You may like:
JSEclipse plugin (update site) originally developed by Interactonline, later acquired by Adobe
Eclipse Web Tools Platform Project (update site)
Personally, I use the standalone community version of Aptana for that sort of thing, as I don't really use Eclipse for anything much else these days.
There is an Eclipse plugin version of Aptana, info available here: http://www.aptana.com/docs/index.php/Plugging_Aptana_into_an_existing_Eclipse_configuration
Update: New link to get this plugin:
http://aptana.org/products/studio3/download
It depends - for JS and CSS I use standard Webtools plugin. But for HTML and XML I think Aptana made great fork - autoformatting in HTML really helps a lot. I use Eclipse, but download Aptana as plugin and use only some of it's feautures.
Also Aptana JS editor gives your possibility to use code complete and doc for most popular JS frameworks such as jQuery or Ext.
I use in my company the Amateras HTML Editor. It is the base for other more advanced editors for editing JSF, Struts, UML, XML, ...). It is straightforward, just a plugin, and does the necessary jobs pretty well. Comes with a source editor (with completion) and a preview that works quite well.
As of now, Eclipse Juno has great HTML/CSS/XML/JS editors, with the PDT a good plugin for PHP